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Even those who already sought freedom kept acting; so will you.

It is tempting to hear liberation as an exit from work. Krishna points instead to the ones who actually reached it, and notes, simply, that they never stopped acting.

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एवं ज्ञात्वा कृतं कर्म पूर्वैरपि मुमुक्षुभिः। कुरु कर्मैव तस्मात्त्वं पूर्वैः पूर्वतरं कृतम्
evaṁ jñātvā kṛitaṁ karma pūrvair api mumukṣhubhiḥ kuru karmaiva tasmāttvaṁ pūrvaiḥ pūrvataraṁ kṛitam

Knowing this very truth, the ancient seekers of liberation still went on acting. So you too should act, exactly as those who came before you always did.

Bhagavad Gita 4.15
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Sanskrit recitation by Swami Brahmānanda

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Where it stands

Krishna has just set aside, for a few verses, the question of whether the Lord meets everyone alike, and now returns to the working teaching of karma-yoga he had already begun. He grounds it here in something harder to argue against than any new claim: the conduct of the ancients themselves.

The teaching

The seekers of liberation before you kept acting. So will you.

Knowing this very truth, that action free of the conceit of doership and free of craving for its fruit does not stain the one who acts, the seekers of liberation who came before you kept acting. They were not indifferent about freedom. They wanted it as much as anyone. And still they did not set their work down. So you, too, are given no third option: do not sit in silence, and do not renounce the work in front of you. The reason forks cleanly by where you stand. If you have not yet realized the Self, act so that the work itself purifies your mind and makes it ready. If you have already realized it, act anyway, now so that others are not misled by your example into abandoning duties that remain theirs to carry. Either way the instruction does not change: keep acting. And notice the weight placed on how old this practice is. It is not offered as an experiment being tried on you for the first time. It is called still earlier, more ancient still, a conduct handed down in an unbroken line by those who actually reached what you are seeking. Once it is settled that the work must be done, a harder question opens right behind it: what do doing and not-doing actually mean, which is exactly what the verses just ahead take up.

The doubt that rises

Seeking freedom is usually pictured as a turning away from the world's business. So why does Krishna insist that even the ones who genuinely sought and found that freedom kept on acting? What is it about their action that let it coexist with the very thing they were seeking, rather than standing in its way?

Where the paths divide

Advaita Vedanta

Read through the two-case instruction that divides by the doer's stage.

Once egoity and craving for fruit are absent, action cannot stain the one who acts, because the sense of being a separate doer has already dissolved. So the instruction divides in two. If you do not yet know the Self, act to purify your own mind, since that purification is what finally makes knowledge possible. If you already know it, act to hold the world together, so your own example does not mislead others into dropping duties still theirs to carry. The ancients acted in exactly this spirit, and so the precedent settles the matter for anyone reading after them.

Vishishtadvaita

Read through knowledge of the Lord as the specific ground of freedom.

Here the knowledge that frees is knowledge of the Lord himself, not an abstract Self-knowledge apart from him. The ancients, their sin shaken off by knowing Krishna as he has just disclosed himself, went on acting because of that very knowledge; and Arjuna, his own sin shaken off the same way, is told to do that very action. The ancients are named precisely, Vivasvat, Manu, and their line, so the precedent is a real genealogy, not a vague appeal to the past in general.

Dvaita

Read honestly, since the surviving comment here is thin.

What remains of the Dvaita comment on this verse is a short remark: it reads the passage as an example of conduct, tied to the word thus, with still earlier glossed simply as that which existed before. It would misrepresent the source to expand this into a full three-part argument about dependence and grace in Madhva's own confident voice. On a Dvaita reading generally, one might extend this to say that even the knowers among the ancients acted from longing for a still fuller release, rather than producing that release through the act itself; but that extension draws on the wider system, not on what this verse's brief remark actually says.

Kashmir Shaivism

Read honestly, since only a single sentence of this comment survives.

The extant fragment is one line: therefore you too, purified by this understanding, do the actions that must necessarily be done. That is genuinely all there is to work with here, and it would be dishonest to present a fuller commentary as though it were his own extended words. What the fragment does show is a recognizable emphasis, purification of buddhi, understanding, and action named as necessary rather than optional, consistent with how this same reading treats other verses in the chapter. On a Kashmir Saiva reading, one would extend this further, that the ancients' action was freedom's own spontaneous expression rather than an imposed discipline, but that extension is clearly a modern inference, not the master's stated word on 4.15.

Bhakti

Read as a return to karma-yoga, with a precise purpose named for the ancients' action.

This verse is read as Krishna deliberately returning to the karma-yoga he was already teaching, after briefly setting aside the question of the Lord's impartiality. The ancient seekers acted in just this way for a specific purpose: purity of sattva, the clarifying of the inner instrument, rather than liberation as an immediate result of the act itself. The instruction to act, first, is read as marking a sequence: action comes first, and only afterward does fuller ripening, whether toward knowledge or toward devotion, actually unfold.

Modern

Read as a cumulative argument from precedent.

This reading draws out the logic of precedent with particular clarity: not just the ancients but the still-earlier ancients before them acted this way, so the argument is cumulative rather than resting on one example that might be dismissed as unusual. The weight of an unbroken lineage, generation reinforcing generation, is what finally makes the instruction to Arjuna feel settled rather than merely asserted.

All six readings agree that the ancients kept acting and that Arjuna must too. They differ on why the ancients' action never got in the way of their freedom, and, honestly, two of the six sources available here survive only as thin fragments, so this page keeps their fuller positions open rather than filling the gaps with invented confidence. What exactly binds the doer, and what exactly frees an action from that bind, is answered slightly differently by each school even where the instruction to keep working is identical.

A question to carry

Are you waiting for some future feeling of readiness or realization before you will fully commit to the work in front of you, the way the ancients, by every account here, did not wait?

So take up your work as they took up theirs: without withdrawing from it, and without needing to feel free of every doubt before you begin.

Each school is voiced from the commentators named above. Their full words, every translation, and where the schools agree and differ wait in the reading desk just below. Open the commentary desk.

Krishna has just set aside the question of whether the Lord favors anyone; now he returns to the karma-yoga he was teaching, and grounds it in the conduct of the ancients themselves.

Where they agreethe convergence

The seekers of old, knowing exactly what you have just been taught, kept working; their example, not a new argument, is what settles the matter for you.

Across schools and centuries the commentators come to the same ground. These are the points they share, and the voices that hold each one.

3schools

The word 'thus' ties this verse to what was already taught: action free of doership and of craving for fruit does not bind.

Across Advaita, Viśiṣṭādvaita, BhaktiŚaṅkara · Rāmānuja · Madhusūdana · Śrīdhara
In Śaṅkara, Rāmānuja, and 2 others’ words

The word thus (evam) reaches back to what Krishna has just taught: action performed without the conceit of being the doer, and without craving its fruit, does not stain or bind the one who acts. Having secured that truth, Krishna now adds the weight of precedent behind it, rather than leaving it as an abstract claim.

Asked in question 1, below
3schools

The ancients named here were genuine seekers of release, and still they kept acting; their example closes the gap between duty and freedom.

Across Advaita, Viśiṣṭādvaita, BhaktiŚaṅkara · Rāmānuja · Śrīdhara · Madhusūdana
In Śaṅkara, Rāmānuja, and 2 others’ words

The ancients named here were mumukshus, seekers of liberation, genuinely bent on release rather than merely dutiful or unreflective. And still, knowing exactly what Krishna has just taught, they kept acting. Their example is decisive because it closes off the assumption that seeking freedom and doing one's work are somehow opposed.

Asked in question 2, below
2schools

Krishna allows no third way: do not sit silent, and do not renounce, whatever your stage of understanding.

Across Advaita, Kashmir ŚaivaŚaṅkara · Abhinavagupta · Madhusūdana
In Śaṅkara, Abhinavagupta, and 1 others’ words

Krishna's instruction to Arjuna, once the precedent is in place, is direct and admits no third way: do that very action, do not sit silent, and do not renounce. Whatever a reader's stage, withdrawal from one's own duty is not offered as a live option here.

Asked in question 3, below
2schools

The reason forks by where you stand: purification if you are not yet realized, the world's welfare if you are.

Across Advaita, BhaktiŚaṅkara · Śrīdhara · Madhusūdana
In Śaṅkara, Śrīdhara, and 1 others’ words

Where the sources spell out a reason, they converge on a single two-case answer, and the case is filled by where the doer stands. If you do not yet know the Self, act to purify your own mind and ready it for knowledge. If you already know the Self, act to hold the world together, since others watch and follow your example.

Asked in question 4, below
3schools

The stress on deep antiquity is not decoration; it is the claim that this conduct is settled and beginningless, not new.

Across Advaita, Viśiṣṭādvaita, BhaktiŚaṅkara · Rāmānuja · Śrīdhara · Madhusūdana
In Śaṅkara, Rāmānuja, and 2 others’ words

The stress on antiquity, still earlier, more ancient still, is read as carrying real authority. The practice is not a fresh proposal being tested on Arjuna. It is beginningless in the sense that matters, an unbroken conduct handed down by the wise, which is why Krishna can simply point at it rather than argue for it from scratch.

Asked in question 6, below

This is the shared ground; it can be carried as it is. Below is where they differ.

Where they differthe divergence

The question they answer differently
When the ancient seekers of liberation kept acting after they already knew the truth, was their action the very cause of their freedom, or only the settled conduct of people whose freedom lay elsewhere?
The traditional commentators
Advaita Vedāntasee this school across the GītāŚaṅkara
Action purifies the unrealized mind and, for the realized, serves the world's welfare; either way the ancients kept acting and so must Arjuna.
The instruction divides cleanly by the doer's own stage.
Viśiṣṭādvaitasee this school across the GītāRāmānuja
The freeing knowledge is knowledge of the Lord himself; sin shaken off by that knowledge, the ancients, precisely Vivasvat and Manu's line, kept acting.
Knowledge of Krishna, not abstract Self-knowledge, is the ground named.
Viśiṣṭādvaita, in their fuller words

Ramanuja locates the freeing knowledge specifically in knowledge of the Lord: the ancients, their sin shaken off by knowing Krishna as he has just disclosed himself, acted on that ground, and Arjuna, his sin shaken off the same way, is told to do that very action. The ancients are named precisely as Vivasvat, Manu, and their line, so the precedent is genealogical, not merely generic.

Rāmānuja
Dvaitasee this school across the GītāMadhva
The surviving comment is thin: it reads the verse mainly as an example of conduct tied to the word thus, without developing a fuller claim about release.
Source is fragmentary; broader Dvaita claims here are flagged extrapolation, not Madhva's stated word.
Dvaita, in their fuller words

The surviving fragment attributed to Madhva reads the verse mainly as an example of conduct tied to the word thus, with still earlier glossed narrowly as that which existed before. This is a thin source, and a fuller Dvaita claim, that even the knowers among the ancients acted from continued longing for release rather than producing release through the act itself, would need to be drawn from Madhva's broader system rather than from this verse's own brief remark, so it is offered here only as a flagged extrapolation.

Madhva
Shaivasee this school across the GītāAbhinavagupta
Only a single sentence survives: purified by understanding, do the actions that must necessarily be done. The source does not go further than this.
Fragment only; any fuller Kashmir Saiva extension is explicitly marked as such.
Shaiva, in their fuller words

What survives of Abhinavagupta's comment is a single sentence: therefore you too, purified by this understanding, do the actions that must necessarily be done. This is a fragment, not a developed reading, though its emphasis on purified buddhi and on action as necessary rather than optional is consistent with his wider Kashmir Saiva reading elsewhere in the chapter. Any fuller extension, for instance reading the ancients' action as freedom's own spontaneous expression rather than an imposed discipline, is a clearly-labeled extrapolation, not the master's stated word on this verse.

Abhinavagupta
BhaktiŚrīdhara
The ancients acted first, for purity of sattva, and only afterward did fuller ripening, whether as knowledge or devotion, follow from that purified ground.
Action is read as prior in sequence, never as beneath the seeker.
Bhakti, in their fuller words

Sridhara reads the verse as a deliberate return to the karma-yoga taught earlier, after the brief detour about the Lord's impartiality, and names the ancients' purpose precisely as purity of sattva rather than liberation itself. He reads the imperative to Arjuna, do only action, first, as marking a sequence: action comes first, and full ripening, whether as knowledge or as devotion, follows only afterward.

Śrīdhara
Modern voices teachers of the last two centuries, read together; they stand apart from the classical schools
A modern readingMadhusūdana
The argument is cumulative: since both the ancients and the still-earlier ancients before them acted, the precedent carries the weight of an unbroken lineage.
Each generation's conduct is read as reinforcing the next, not standing alone.
A modern reading, in their fuller words

Madhusudana states the two-case instruction with particular clarity and makes the logic of precedent explicit: since both the ancients and the still-earlier ancients before them acted, action must be done by Arjuna too. The argument is cumulative rather than a single appeal to one example, each generation's conduct reinforcing the weight carried by the one after it.

Madhusūdana
Sit with these

A few questions to carry

These ask for understanding, not recall; each answer is settled by the commentary itself.

1
What does the word 'thus' (evam) at the start of the verse point back to?
2
Who are the 'ancients' Krishna points to as having acted with this knowledge?
3
What two options does Krishna's instruction rule out for Arjuna?
4
According to the two-case instruction, why should someone who has not yet realized the Self keep acting?
5
If seeking liberation usually means turning away from worldly action, what does this verse say about that assumption?
6
Why does the emphasis on the antiquity of this practice ('still earlier') matter to the commentators?
For a second sitting6 more questions
7
For Ramanuja, what specifically frees the ancients here?
8
What is true about the source material attributed to Madhva on this verse?
9
How much of Abhinavagupta's comment on this verse survives?
10
For Sridhara, what specific purpose did the ancients' action serve?
11
How does Madhusudana make the argument from precedent explicit?
12
What does this verse set up for the verses that follow it?

Carry this with youwhat stays

Notice, today, whether you are quietly waiting for a feeling of readiness before you will fully commit to the work in front of you. The ancients did not wait for that feeling to arrive and then act; they acted, and let the readiness be built by the acting itself. Take up one piece of your own work now, without first requiring that you feel entitled to set it aside.

So take up your work as they took up theirs, not waiting for a feeling of readiness to arrive before you begin.

एवं ज्ञात्वा कृतं कर्म पूर्वैरपि मुमुक्षुभिः।evaṁ jñātvā kṛtaṁ karma pūrvair api mumukṣubhiḥ

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evamthusjñātvāknowingkṛitamperformedkarmaactionspūrvaiḥof ancient timesapiindeedmumukṣhubhiḥseekers of liberationkurushould performkarmadutyevacertainlytasmātthereforetvamyoupūrvaiḥof those ancient sagespūrva-taramin ancient timeskṛitamperformed
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Convergence

he word thus (evam) reaches back to what Krishna has just taught: action performed without the conceit of being the doer, and without craving its fruit, does not stain or bind the one who acts. Having secured that truth, Krishna now adds the weight of precedent behind it, rather than leaving it as an abstract claim.

Śaṅkarācārya · Rāmānujācārya · Madhusūdana Sarasvatī · Śrīdhara Svāmī

The ancients named here were mumukshus, seekers of liberation, genuinely bent on release rather than merely dutiful or unreflective. And still, knowing exactly what Krishna has just taught, they kept acting. Their example is decisive because it closes off the assumption that seeking freedom and doing one's work are somehow opposed.

Śaṅkarācārya · Rāmānujācārya · Śrīdhara Svāmī · Madhusūdana Sarasvatī

Krishna's instruction to Arjuna, once the precedent is in place, is direct and admits no third way: do that very action, do not sit silent, and do not renounce. Whatever a reader's stage, withdrawal from one's own duty is not offered as a live option here.

Śaṅkarācārya · Ācārya Abhinavagupta · Madhusūdana Sarasvatī

Where the sources spell out a reason, they converge on a single two-case answer, and the case is filled by where the doer stands. If you do not yet know the Self, act to purify your own mind and ready it for knowledge. If you already know the Self, act to hold the world together, since others watch and follow your example.

Śaṅkarācārya · Śrīdhara Svāmī · Madhusūdana Sarasvatī

The stress on antiquity, still earlier, more ancient still, is read as carrying real authority. The practice is not a fresh proposal being tested on Arjuna. It is beginningless in the sense that matters, an unbroken conduct handed down by the wise, which is why Krishna can simply point at it rather than argue for it from scratch.

Śaṅkarācārya · Rāmānujācārya · Śrīdhara Svāmī · Madhusūdana Sarasvatī

Divergence

Advaita Vedānta

Shankara reads the verse as settling a live question by precedent rather than by fresh argument: the ancients, being genuinely free of the sense of agency and of craving for fruit, found that action did not bind them, and so kept acting. The instruction that follows divides cleanly by the doer's stage, purification for the unrealized, the world's welfare for the realized, with no third option of withdrawal offered to either.

Śaṅkarācārya

Viśiṣṭādvaita

Ramanuja locates the freeing knowledge specifically in knowledge of the Lord: the ancients, their sin shaken off by knowing Krishna as he has just disclosed himself, acted on that ground, and Arjuna, his sin shaken off the same way, is told to do that very action. The ancients are named precisely as Vivasvat, Manu, and their line, so the precedent is genealogical, not merely generic.

Rāmānujācārya

Dvaita

The surviving fragment attributed to Madhva reads the verse mainly as an example of conduct tied to the word thus, with still earlier glossed narrowly as that which existed before. This is a thin source, and a fuller Dvaita claim, that even the knowers among the ancients acted from continued longing for release rather than producing release through the act itself, would need to be drawn from Madhva's broader system rather than from this verse's own brief remark, so it is offered here only as a flagged extrapolation.

Madhvācārya

Kashmir Śaiva

What survives of Abhinavagupta's comment is a single sentence: therefore you too, purified by this understanding, do the actions that must necessarily be done. This is a fragment, not a developed reading, though its emphasis on purified buddhi and on action as necessary rather than optional is consistent with his wider Kashmir Saiva reading elsewhere in the chapter. Any fuller extension, for instance reading the ancients' action as freedom's own spontaneous expression rather than an imposed discipline, is a clearly-labeled extrapolation, not the master's stated word on this verse.

Ācārya Abhinavagupta

Bhakti

Sridhara reads the verse as a deliberate return to the karma-yoga taught earlier, after the brief detour about the Lord's impartiality, and names the ancients' purpose precisely as purity of sattva rather than liberation itself. He reads the imperative to Arjuna, do only action, first, as marking a sequence: action comes first, and full ripening, whether as knowledge or as devotion, follows only afterward.

Śrīdhara Svāmī

Modern

Madhusudana states the two-case instruction with particular clarity and makes the logic of precedent explicit: since both the ancients and the still-earlier ancients before them acted, action must be done by Arjuna too. The argument is cumulative rather than a single appeal to one example, each generation's conduct reinforcing the weight carried by the one after it.

Madhusūdana Sarasvatī

A Seeker Asks

If liberation usually means turning away from worldly action, why does Krishna insist that even the seekers of liberation kept acting?

The premise itself is what this verse corrects. Krishna points to real seekers of old, people genuinely bent on release, and simply notes that they kept doing their work; their example settles that seeking freedom and fulfilling one's duty were never opposed to begin with.

Śaṅkarācārya · Rāmānujācārya

What makes action compatible with freedom is the inner stance carried toward it, not the outward stopping of it. Action done without the conceit of being the doer and without craving for its result leaves no stain, so there was never a need for the ancients to withdraw from action in order to remain free.

Madhusūdana Sarasvatī · Śrīdhara Svāmī

And action keeps a real purpose at every stage, so abandoning it solves nothing. For the unrealized it purifies the mind; for the realized it holds the world together, which is exactly why the sources agree the ancients, realized or not, went on working rather than withdrawing.

Śaṅkarācārya · Śrīdhara Svāmī · Madhusūdana Sarasvatī

Contemplation

Notice, today, whether you are quietly waiting for a feeling of readiness before you will fully commit to the work in front of you. The ancients did not wait for that feeling to arrive and then act; they acted, and let the readiness be built by the acting itself. Take up one piece of your own work now, without first requiring that you feel entitled to set it aside.

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